I believe that webmentions offer so much more flexibility.
Tag: Webmentions
Recently I’ve been experimenting with a content curation site for the Google Apps Script community (see Apps Script Pulse – Sharing Google Apps Script community content). In this post I want to sha…
I really like Apps Script Pulse. I always wonder where IndieWeb and things like webmentions and post kinds fit with all of this. In some ways it reminds me of the collation of posts for IndieNews, which utilises ‘Syndication-of‘.
Ryan Barrett (snarfed.org)Mastodon is now on Bridgy! Both backfeed and publish (aka POSSE) are fully supported. Feel free to try them out! And let me know if you hit any bugs, problems, or missing features.
This is great, thank you Ryan.
David Shanske (david.shanske.com)It has been a long while since a major release of webmentions, and it is not the end of the plans we have. It is merely the first step. In the lastest version, several useful features were added.
fluffy (beesbuzz.biz)While it has some rough edges, the Webmention protocol has a lot going for it. One of the nice things about it is that it’s easy to add support via a third-party endpoint, such as webmention.io, which is what I (and many others) use.
I’ve found a few instances in which Brid.gy will apparently fail to send a webmention (and/or fail to find a target) when the original URL contains an emoji(s). I’d suspect it’s a quirky encoding issue of some sort. I’m sure I’ve seen this issue before on Instagram where it’s probably more likely as the result of emojis in Instagram “titles” when using PESOS methods. When I subsequently remove the emoji from the permalink, and reprocess Bridgy then has no problem finding the URL and sending the webmention. So at least there’s a “fix” on the user’s side for those experiencing this issue, but only if they’re aware it exists and have the means of executing it. Example of failed webmention: (I’ll note that it’s also got a fragment # in the URL, but don’t think this is a part of the issue) Original: F0%9F%93%85-virtual-homebrew-website-club-meetup-on-may-15-2019/?replytocom=262215#respond Syndicated copy that was liked:
This issue with webmentions and emojis is the reason when I manually set each slug, because what I was finding was that my posts were not pinging. However, when I used the permalink then it worked. For example:
https://collect.readwriterespond.com/?p=10116
Rather than:
https://collect.readwriterespond.com/No+webmentions+to+original+URLs+that+include+emojis
Hypothesis doesn’t have a good concept of a site owner so there’s no way to get alerts for new annotations on my posts.
Tom, I think that I would use Hypothesis more if it better integrated with my site. This is something that Chris Aldrich and Ian O’Byrne have been exploring quite a bit lately.
At least with the option of webmentions there is the possibility of being notified, even if you do not have an explicit identity in Micro.Blog. There is not even the possibility of knowing what conversations you are a part of in spaces like Facebook.
Outline for adding some Microformats to Hypothes.is to better support the (Indie) Web.
It’s not exactly an implementation of Webmention, but I was interested to find that there’s a tool from Hypothes.is that will show you (all?) the annotations (and replies) on your website.
Thank you Chris for the reminder of this. I am pretty sure I have tinkered with it before, but now I have added a link in the menu of my site.
I really want to use Hypothesis more, but until there is an easier workflow I am just going to persist with my mishmash of Diigo and collecting on own site.
I’m curious what particular lines you’ve changed in the plugin and how as I’d love to have this behavior instead of the less useful links to the profiles that the plugin typically gives.
I too would be interested in linking to post in mentions Colin.
Use & publish visible data for humans first, machines second. Hiding @, #, and other cruft in links that send webmentions.
I really like this idea Chris. I must admit that I have become more aware of my links since activating Refbacks. There are some mentions which I include for me and I wonder about making them hidden as you are suggesting with the names.
The one thing I would like is a means of easily searching ‘users’ I have mentioned. That is one thing that I liked about Google+. However, I don’t really want the @ or +.
the goal is to standardize a way to link together conversations across the web. A Webmention is a simple way to notify any URL when you link to it from your site. Consider this scenario: Alice publishes a blog post. Bob writes a response to Alice’s post and links to it. On the web as it is today the only real way Alice ever knows about Bob’s post is if someone tells her or if she sees incoming traffic in her logs.
Webmentions is a framework for connecting these two posts such that, if Alice’s site accepts Webmentions, Bob’s publishing software can automatically notify Alice’s server that her post has been linked to in Bob’s post.
Once Alice’s site is aware of Bob’s post, Alice can decide if she wants to show Bob’s post as a comment on her site or link to it from her post – and if she responds with another post, then the conversation can continue.
It took me a moment to realize what it was exactly since I hadn’t yet added a field to indicate it, but since the IndieWeb chat doesn’t send webmentions by itself, I’m glad I support refbacks to be aware of comments on my posts. The avatar didn’t come through quite like it should, but it’s nice to be able to treat refbacks like any other type of mention. Thanks David Shanske for the Refbacks plugin. Thanks Tantek for what I think is my first incoming “mention” from chat. The chat has some reasonable microformats markup, so I suppose the parser could do a more solid job, but this is a pretty great start. Sadly, Refback isn’t as real-time as Webmention, but it’s better than nothing. I suppose we could all be posting chats on our own sites and syndicating into places like IRC to own our two directional conversations, but until I get around to the other half… (or at least for WordPress, I recall having gotten syndication to IRC for WithKnown working a while back via plugin.)
This all sounds interesting, I am just a bit confused how it actually works. I activated David Shanske’s plugin on both my sites. I now seem to be getting a duplication of my webmentions?
I actually wonder about my pingbacks as well and think they might all just be getting straight to spam as I include so many links in my posts. Is there a way of testing that I am missing?
Chris Aldrich (BoffoSocko)Something got me thinking about comments on my website here. Almost no one posts native replies on my posts. I’d have to think that 99.9999% of all the replies on my website are now via Webmention. Perhaps I should cut off native replies just to cut back on the amount of spam I get? Hmmm….
Ryan Barrett (snarfed.org)https://snarfed.org/bridgy_traffic_bump.png https://snarfed.org/bridgy_traffic_bump.png
A few weeks ago, Bridgy‘s traffic suddenly shot up to 20-50x its baseline, from 5-10 human visitors per day to 200-300. Humans in browsers, not bots or other requests; this ain’t Google Analytics’s first rodeo. They’re all generally coming to the site directly, not from search. If they’re coming from links or social networks, we can’t tell, due to HTTPS etc.
Each time I reach for a tasty piece of low-hanging fruit, or stoop for a refreshing draught of water, away they go, eluding me, frustrating me and, in the end, I suppose, keeping me going.
I rolled out a few Webmention improvements to Micro.blog today
Greg McVerry (jgregorymcverry.com)I want to build a way to issue and receive badges in my remixable course template. I tried to spin up an Heoku app but ran into authentication issues and I then tried Ruby but ran into cert issues installing gems
Greg McVerry (jgregorymcverry.com)Really new and beta https://aaronparecki.com/2018/03/12/17/building-an-indieweb-reader but cool
All your feeds in one placeAll your writing and publishing in same place
Then you can read your feeds
Then you comment, reply, and share publishing all this on your own domain
Greg, I like how you document the different parts here with your screenshots. I really must work out why it is not working for me. By any chance, have you recorded your process of setting it all up anywhere?